Sunday, 4 December 2011

#15 Spirituality -Can anyone be really helped? v.2

#15 Spirituality -Can anyone be really helped?  Version 2  -much added

In #14 , I discussed :-
 Everything is Perfect.
 There is nothing to fix.
 There is nothing to do.

.Preamble
I suggested that the answer depends on from which viewpoint ,from which angle, that you look at it.
I also suggested that from 'our view ' here among the cars and 3 bedroom houses that things do not seem perfect,there's plenty to fix and a lot to do  -like perhaps fix Global Warming.

I offered other suggestions from what I might imagine an 'Awakened/Enlightened View' and perhaps a Divine View. Namely that Life just is, and it's only our judgements that we criticise!
I pointed out that a Perfect Infinite Creator wouldn't by definition create a perfect world necessarily - but that's how it feels to me !!!
Though Life just is - it may well be perfect !

And also that there is really nothing to do to improve the Creation -but one can take the opportunity we have been given  -to have fun with it or perhaps impose our own set of values upon it thus to enjoy our individuality, express ourselves in groups of like minded people and even change the whole world.
I could expand this to say that perhaps we could Create some thing Wonderful and Decent and then offer it to the Creator and say "What do you think of that? -Isn't it totally groovy?" hehe.

Restated (again!):-
I see things as just things and not needing improving.
My opinions,concepts ,labels and judgements on things are just mine when these things themselves clearly are just things without these labels.
...and more than that -they are all created by God,the Divine,the Infinite Awareness so who am I to caste judgement upon them?
But everything does feel perfect to me.!


Substituting people for things in the above - gives us the questions:-
 Are people perfect (as they are)?
 There is no one to 'fix'?...There is no one to help?
 There's nothing to do to help people?..There's no reason to help people?

more succinctly:-
People are perfect?
No one to help?
No reason to help?


.There's no reason to help people -people just are -why caste judgement up on them?
and
.There's no reason to help the already perfect people?

Ouch -that seems a bit harsh !
Using my refusal as ever to entertain reasoned debate straight from my highly developed powers of deductive reasoning...lol
Refusing to to that - because I seek a spiritual path and use my awareness and feelings:-
What do I feel?
How does this feel?

Well it feels horrible -eeek- I want to help people and make less suffering for them I suppose.
I could see myself eating a burger in a detached way watching someone drown at the sea side...eek2 "Noooooooo"
I see myself not bothering to help an injured animal if i could -eek3 "Noooooooo"
I see myself not concerned with Humanities' spiritual growth..eek4 "Noooooooo"


If you struggled through my preceding posting #14 Everything is perfect? using that methodology the answers drop out:-

Yup, people just are - to help them is to label them as imperfect and needing fixing.
Yup,people do feeeeel to me however -perfect as they are!
Yup, I choose to help people because I want to live in a world where people are happier and show better care for this blue planet and everything on it.
I want this not to improve on the Creation, the God-created people, the Divinely-created people - but just to satisfy my desires for the people of the world.

.So that's it then? Sorted? We can all go back to Second Life and go shopping?
Hmmmm.




Clearly I and others hold sentient beings (people and animals) as more valuable than things like wooden posts and make-up.
We're putting the horse before the cart!
People (and fluffy animals) seem somehow more precious?

Not to wash the car (not fix it) seems fine -but to watch another suffer (not fix them) seems harder.

So is this just a judgement?
People are more valuable than things?
"Time not important. Only life important.
" from the movie The Fifth Element.(lol)

The Shamans tell us 'consciousness is in everything -the people,the animals,the plants,the rocks,the lakes,the sky,the planets,the stars..everything'.
"Consciousness sleeps in the rocks,dreams in the plants,stirs in the animals and awakens in Man" The Secret DVD...
(..maybe? - ever chatted to a crystal or the Moon or Gaia...lol)

When I type this -I am on your vibration and you perceive it.
When a Shaman talks to a lake -perhaps he feels it just as sentient -I will have to ask.
Does the crystal,or lake, or thing have the rest of it's identity in another dimension ?
Do we see just the tips of the metaphysical icebergs with things?
I feel there's something going on like this  -you might think I am nuts but the crystals and trees and so forth feel sentient to me; even a pentagram ring I had didn't like me!
Maybe this is my creation?
Am I making things this way?
But others do perceive these things,,hundreds of thousands of us ,planet wide.

So to tune into the correct vibration is the ability to talk to ...anything.
This is what I feel

This is not mathematics.(I have no Q.E.D.quod erat demonstrandum)
This is what I feel.

This is using those perceptions that us spiritual types go on and on about - why just see with your eyes - when you can get a cart load more data by feeeel ???

okay so if we go from this viewpoint:
Things are just as sentient as the people in our lives.
...we still have the situation where people suffer !! Rocks don't seem to suffer here  -maybe a polluted lake could feel distress but lakes are BIG...(maybe that's part of it).
But things appear not to show the distress that a weeping child does.


So that makes people:-
a. More important than things?
b. Needing more urgency to help?

c. Or is it just that the 'people channel' is familiar vibration that we tune into. We hear the our friend's distress transmission (they speak) but don't pick up the transmitted vibration from the nearby fresh water stream (the way it feels).

Hmmmmm...lol

Well it depends on one's position I suppose - I am sure there are many that hold the life of a chimpanzee (awww blesss) higher than that of almost any human. And others who would do nasty things to the employees of drug companies that do live animal testing. And there's the anti-human folks who presumably calculate Nature is better off without us.
But there's not a lot of love in some of these types of computations!
But all are points of view.



I suppose that's it really -what's your position ,your angle,your view,your concern with helping people?
Do you cry and worry and help?
Or do you find yourself detached?
Or does it depend on how 'good' you feel the person is?
Or whether they are an 'innocent victim'?
Or your family and friends?

'God made us' 
'God made us perfect'
-if you subscribe to one or both of these or feel them, this may be a way to let go of  'things you cannot control', people you are unable to help.

Lao Tzu in the Tao Te Ching has been translated as saying "Hold the centre"
One can be neutral with people not in a lack of love but only in neither reaching out to them or withdrawing from them.
I feel from the center, neutrality, surrender, acceptance and from detachment one still can love -this position is not 'cold'. (One is accepting things as they are <they just exist> - not accepting one's judgements -not accepting 'bad' things).
In life this is a valuable tool as well for failures to help and failures generally -all of which of course are more judgements...lol...yawn...lol.


Personal struggle and misfortune spawns growth as we know. The recovered cancer patient and their new way of viewing the world -often they bless the cancer and wouldn't have had their lives go any other way.

If I had rushed in with some reiki healing and cured them,denying this spiritual growth time line -would I have really helped them?
Or just sated my desire not to see them suffer? Just acted on my judgement of them?



 

.Love and Help
.Let me offer even another viewpoint  - and ask to reconsider priorities.


Many spheres of educated people will tell us that Survival is our true motivator and urge.
This they hold is higher in us than duty or love or decency or fairness or any of the intangible(?) spiritual values.
They position us as scared cornered animals that will tear anything apart merely to live another second.
But this has not been our history has it?
Individuals time and time and time again have put their lives second to higher causes.
Indeed they are our champions and heroes - rather than some sucker who didn't live!
Many died from an instant decision .."No - I would rather die"
And others 'killed themselves' slowly there entire life or had a longer period to contemplate death's inevitability - ! The Christian Missionaries,some Monks,the Saints,some inventors,personnel at war in the armed forces,- all offered their lives for a higher cause than bodily survival.

What intrigues me are the Agnostics among them - that a person who knows he will disappear forever when his bodily life is over -for him or her to give that up for a higher cause. Words fail.
What common thread in their consciousness motivated them to perform this "supreme sacrifice"?

But there was this urge -a higher motivation that I feel is deep within all of us.

I am not asking you to think about it!
I am asking you to feel it in yourself !!!

Mothers will gladly (British english) stand in front of the bullet to save their children.
For Behavioural Psychology to degrade this to some genetic species survival trait feels incorrect to me!
How does it feel for you?
Is this a 'soul' thing or a 'meat body' thing?

Some call it Duty . I shall call it Decency -but it's the feeling not the words.
Words only point to feelings and concepts.


Pure Love. Maybe this is supreme and rises yet again above duty and decency?
I think so.
Love is pure you say...lol...let's not go there - you know what I mean!
Just loving -only love ...love...that one !! Please just feel it :)

(.back to helping)
So with this feeling of duty or decency and Pure Love as the higher motivators than mere body survival where do we stand with helping others?
If one can assume the highest vibration possible at any given moment - then spiritually I feel what follows are one's 'highest' decisions.

From this high vibration then let's consider this lovely blue planet and all the creatures great an small!
Suddenly we recycle old cans out of love and not because the neighbours do it.
We feed a stray cat with love.
We give to charity with love.
We promote causes of nature preservation ,not for mankind's future or our children's future so much as, out of Love.

Feel the whole world from here  -from Love.
It should offer a different approach!

Importantly -we also feel some stray cats we meet should not be fed.
Some charities don't feel right to give to -at that time.
And sometimes Nature must come before Mankind !!!

Things we "should do" now seem clear. Or clearer.

Consider "tough love" where one denies a person of something as an act of love - actions that mimic lower vibrations , or are 'higher harmonics' of cruelty perhaps.
It seems unfair but it is love.
To feel these things from Love is vastly different than reasoning one should do this to your child because a child care book has said so.
Rise above your thoughts and the endless calculations and extrapolations of the future and just feel.
Life is not chess -there are not moves to try to predict.
If I help this person they will get a better job -these thoughts to me seems too material -too much in the mind,too calculating,too much like chess.

Should I help this person? - From Love - How does that feel?
There's your answer !

Should I work at this factory that does that to the nearby lake?
(should I help the lake?)
maybe yes
maybe no
How does it feel?

From Love : Must we as a species and individually act more in harmony with nature - even though we may be inconvenienced by today's standards?
Is there a win-win scenario?

Is humanity, any one life, so precious as to save it no matter what happens to our environment?


These are what are called 'leading questions' please consider(feel) the opposites of their inferences.

With helping anyone or anything  - just love - and there is our way forward!




.Conclusion -to this idea  -Does anyone need help?

I think one must feels one's way.
'Should I help?'.. These decisions will not think through.

I would say if you feel motivated to help -do so.
If it succeeds  -that's cool :)
If you fail despite your best efforts to help, or limited efforts to help or get rejected by the person -that's cool also.

The thing is we are all parts of God.
It's been said by many that we are parts of God to help God experience things from as many different viewpoints as possible.

"Every act reveals God and expands His being.
I know that may be hard
to comprehend.

All creatures are doing their best
to help God in His birth
of Himself."

Meister Eckhart
[Quoted by someone to me...may not be verbatim correct -doesn't matter]

Sooooo... you got an identity made from the Infinite Awareness of the Creator.
That identity is what we think of as me and you.
If that identity feels motivated to something -go for it!

Help them , help people when you feel it's right.
But everything is perfect.
People are perfect.
People are just parts of God and don't really need fixing.
People are Divine.
Don't worry about it.



.My final thoughts on helping

My ultimate conclusion is to love.

Let us ascend to the high vibration and dwell in Pure Love!
With helping anyone or anything  - just love - and there is our way forward! ...(repeated)

When sure about helping another - love.
When unsure - love.
When successful in help - love them
When unsuccessful in help - love them and yourself.
When frustrated with another  - love them
When rejected by another - love them
When happy - love
In despair - love
In life - love
Just love and the vibration will spread like the warm glow of summer and touch all that you meet and many you never meet. Often we forget this is more powerful than we imagine - we are all connected :))


Let us make a decent wonderful world.
It's not that we want to solve the Creator's mistakes!
We just want to make something glorious filled with love and compassion.
And help people so as to make an awakened world where humanity is totally gerooovy.
We have a blank canvas, an opportunity.
One day we can turn to The Divinity and say:-
  "Look at what we have created - Isn't it delightful?
   Look at the people now ! See how we have helped them to love?
   It just an expression of our love that we hold for You and everyone and everything.
   Here -have some chocolate :)) "



Love to all
The Helper
Paloma Porta
4th Dec 2011